The day after the day after

Sign me up on the Wilberforce team, I'm ready to go again!

In regards to the second graders over at Dakota UNwomanly- I have a second grader. With all due respect Steve, it is an insult to all second graders to be compared to these guys. First of all, my second grader has a much larger vocabulary than the few 4 letter words they continue to use. Secondly, my second grader has a much more promising future because she is filled with love and compassion for the innocent and those in need instead fixating her life on the destruction of others.

Yeah, it must be rough to get beaten by a bunch of "second-graders," huh?

angie, who said you defeated us? are we going away? i'm 19 years old, and i've got my entire life to fight you all tooth and nail, and you better believe i'm going to do it. i can name at least 25+ friends of mine who say the exact same thing. as long as roe stands, we'll fight you on every single thing you try to do. buckle up, you're in for it. one of the new faces in conservatism

Angie,

You don't realize what you are doing, but when you do realize that you are only condemning yourself and fear the wrath of God please let us know here on the blog. We will pray with you. God bless!

It's so clear here that all you are Steve Hickey is a brainless man who thinks your word is God. When in fact, you're complete opposite. Your "duty" is to preach God and spread his word. God tolerates. God forgives. God is accepting. God does not force his nonbelievers into his worshippers. God does not frown down on those who do not accept him. You and God are nothing alike. You disgust me with every single word I read. Who am I to say any of this to you? I'm a volunteer with the South Dakota Campaign for Healthy Families. I don't believe in God and I don't kill babies. Why should anyone have to take crap from you? You're really just being a bully here, I haven't read your whole entire blog but from what I have read 100% of it was negative. Instead of saying "My way is the only right way and my mind is the only clear mind and if you think different… you're stupid and I pray for you" I think you should be focusing on learning and accepting. South Dakota voters turned out Refered Law 6 by 10 pts… they also rejected Iniative Measure 11 by 10 pts. Doesn't that mean anything to you? It should. Mr. Hickey, respect the voters. We don't want to vote on another ban. I think we made that clear.

I do not speak on behalf of the CHF so don't even think of using this as some sort of propoganda. - Thanks.

anonymous:
I'm curious as to how you know so very much about God but say you don't believe in Him? It's true that God does not force people to believe in Him but that is not what Steve is talking about on this blog. He's talking about abortion…the shedding of innocent blood! God does not 'tolerate' that! Our God is a loving God…He loves you even though you don't believe in Him and it grieves His heart that you don't. With His love there comes justice and righteousness…He will not 'tolerate' some things and killing the innocent is one of them. You may not actively kill babies but you endorse and condone it…everyone will be held accountable one day for all that we do…including the non-believers. This isn't negative…it's the truth. Jesus brings light into the darkness…it's the ones who don't believe in that light that these issues seem negative. There used to be a time when people viewed black people as less than human and not important enough to live. It took a long time for people to open their eyes to the reality of slavery…just the same, it will take a long time for people to open their eyes to the reality of abortion.

I want you all to notice I just got lectured in what God is like from someone who doesn't believe in him and therefore has no idea what God is really like. This youngster has imaginations about what he wants God to be like - tolerant of things that runs contrary to his nature. But this is merely a God of his own making. He doesn't understand love, namely the love of God, and how love hates everything that hinders love. There is a lot about God that is yet a mystery to me, but after 25 years of pursuing the knowledge of God with all that I am, I can tell you all killing the unborn is a great evil and there is no justification.

Angie, we didn't get beat by you second graders, citizens here who understand right and wrong fought a billion dollar demonically energized abortion cartel. We weren't even fighting other South Dakotans - You are just a pawn, an embarrassingly immature pawn. Originally I thought Dakota women were women and I had some level of respect but I quickly learned the spitballs coming my way were being fired by angry selfish catty girls. You are callous to the pain of women and what real woman give life to - children.

All week I've been at Sanford beside my moms hospice bed watching labored gasps for breath, scared then blank stares, no breath for 15 seconds, moans, etc. Today is day four of the peak of suffering. My mom is dying the hard way. My dad was killed quickly but I saw his blood spilled out over 100 feet of South Dakota highway. Angie have you ever stepped in human blood and picked up pieces of a human body? I have. Have you ever looked in the eyes of the dying when they look back at you with eyes that say can't you help me? Life is fleeting, sacred - to be protected. That people justify dismembering human beings without pain meds is barbaric, demonic. I've been at over a hundred death beds. Here's an observation… God made human beings to live and every cell in our bodies vigorously fights death.

Anon - 12:48

You said "I don't believe in God"
and later you said "I pray for you"

If you don't believe in God who are you praying to?

All I want to say is, sign me up for round three. I will give more of myself than what I did before.

Anonymous, You say "God does not force his nonbelievers into his worshippers. God does not frown down on those who do not accept him" Well you are right, He does not frown down on them, He WEEPS over them, He is calling to your heart because the only way to know Him is to accept Him! He LOVES you, but He will NOT be mocked, and he DOES NOT tolerate sin! He wants to forgive your sin, but if you choose not to accept Him, you also reject His forgiveness. He is an all or nothing God! As for not forcing worship-one day EVERY knee will bow down and call Him Lord! For those who did not accept Him before-it will be too late. Do not be deceived, He DOES NOT TOLERATE SIN! We are ALL sinners, but those of us who have accepted Him are forgiven under the blood of Christ, those who did not accept Him, or thought He was accepting, and tolerant, well they are in for a big surprise! God will say "I never knew you". Please don't miss this opportunity, soften your heart and come to know Christ! I will pray for YOU!

"You are callous to the pain of women and what real woman give life to - children." (emphasis mine)

Wow, Steve. I'm sure the thousands of women across South Dakota who can't conceive their own children totally appreciate that sentiment.

I think you've done a great job highlighting the prevailing sentiment among anti-choice people that women are little more than baby cannons. Thanks!

Hey Angie: Here is a word for you from a 15-year-old friend of mine. Be afraid Molech, be very afraid.

"o we've lost again at the polls, but that doesn't mean I've lost hope. Not one bit. We'll come back next time and the next and the next. You can't stop us Campaign For "Healthy Families". We're a machine made to carry out God's word in this desecrated land. What honestly makes you think abortions are right? Is is the convenience of not having to take care of someone? To stop a beating heart? I'm tired of getting pushed down. Tired of people saying that I can't make a difference or that we should just stop fighting for those innocent people that are killed everyday. I bet you most pro-choice individuals haven't seen pictures of aborted babies. It's absolutely horrifying. A little limp body lying on a table, some of them, not even whole bodies. Some are in pieces with limbs not attached just in a pile, or caked in black or beheaded. Is this really the way to treat a human being. No, it's not and yes, it is actually, a living breathing person. The methods are absolutely barbaric. Most within a first trimester will be vacuumed out and then the remainders are scraped out. In the second trimester a lot are vacuumed out, but not one whole piece. Some are also injected with toxins to make the body soft for easy delivery. If a baby comes out alive……..the abortionist then proceeds to snap the babies neck, crush its trachia tube (i forgot how to spell it, or if that's even right), or crush it's skull. If you read this and do not feel a bit of sympathy, then you honestly don't have a heart. Abortions don't make a family healthy like the campaign's extremely oxymoronic name suggests. And if anybody reading this is pro-choice, tell your director or whatever at campaign for healthy families that we will never back down. We will never stop fighting for those 4,000 innocent babies that are killed everyday. Although the United States may have a "supreme law of the land", my God has the Supreme Law Of The World. You can try to silence us, you can try to hold us down, but you will never break our spirit. We are the light in the darkness, and we will never be put out. You can try to influence out decision with your fancy talk about how this bill would take away your right to choose. But choose what? To kill innocent people? You should not get to choose someone's life for them. My brothers and sisters are dying everyday at the hands of those who believe in convenience or are irresponsible, and I will not stand back and watch them die. I will fight on their behalf, in their name, and I know it will not be in vain. I will stand true to my belief and no one will ever be able to change that. So who will join me? Who will raise their voices for our family? Will stand true to The Word and help us end this holocaust? "If you have faith the size of a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, 'move from here to there', and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you." Matthew 17:20.

Angie

"You are callous to the pain of women"

Wow, Angie. I'm sure the thousands of women across South Dakota who have aborted their own children totally appreciate that sentiment.

I think you've done a great job highlighting the prevailing sentiment among anti-life people that women are capable of little more then self-gratification, and incapable of dealing with the results of their actions.

Angie,

If you are hurting and need help we are here for you. God put us here to be here for the lost. Let's stop hating each other and start helping each other. We are always here for you Angie. Let us know when you are ready because we are always ready. May God bless and guide you Angie, because right now you need it. It sounds like you are bleeding. Don't be filled with fear, fill yourself with love. We can help you with that when you are ready to let go of the pain.

Complete Faith - I like your post, but I have to add a bit of a twist — replace the word action with choice. It's a result of their CHOICE. You see, the we are not anti-choice, we are saying that the choice was made when you hopped into bed with someone. Sometimes our own choices bring about circumstances that we may not like, but that is what we have to deal with then.

So if I make a choice to go spend all of my money and not pay my bills it doesn't make it right to go rob a bank so I don't have to deal with the inconvenience of utilities being turned off, late fees, etc. If I make a choice to sleep with someone and end up pregnant as a result, killing the baby because I would be inconvenienced with being pregnant for 9 months is not right either. (Notice, I didn't even say inconvenience of raising the baby, cause that's not what I'm getting at. All we are saying is, that baby should not be killed. If a woman doesn't want to raise the baby there are obvious solutions for that. ie: adoption)

So you see, I'm not anti-choice. I just say, let's associate the word "CHOICE" at the right time. The choice was there before the pregnancy occurred.

Steve - Nahum 3!!! I read it this morning. Can't wait to hear what you have to say. Thanks for sharing. I hope you are doing well at such a difficult time. Unfortunately, I can relate too well. Your description of your mom's breathing brings visuals of my mom's last days. It hurts to know that you and your family have to go through this. Our prayers are with you.

Steve: Here is the indictment and sentencing I read aloud at 6511 W. 41st to the principalities and powers now at work in and through Planned Parenthod - similar in voice to Nahum 3. (Hey, did you ever notice the numbers of Planned Parenthood's address in SF add up to "666" - I'm just sayin')

Jeremiah 19

3This is what the LORD Almighty, the God of Israel, says: Listen! I am going to bring a disaster on this place that will make the ears of everyone who hears of it tingle. 4 For they have forsaken me and made this a place of foreign gods; they have burned sacrifices in it to gods that neither they nor their fathers nor the kings of Judah ever knew, and they have filled this place with the blood of the innocent. 5 They have built the high places of Baal to burn their sons in the fire as offerings to Baal—something I did not command or mention, nor did it enter my mind. 6 So beware, the days are coming, declares the LORD, when people will no longer call this place Topheth or the Valley of Ben Hinnom, but the Valley of Slaughter.

7 " 'In this place I will ruin [a] the plans of Judah and Jerusalem. I will make them fall by the sword before their enemies, at the hands of those who seek their lives, and I will give their carcasses as food to the birds of the air and the beasts of the earth. 8 I will devastate this city and make it an object of scorn; all who pass by will be appalled and will scoff because of all its wounds. 9 I will make them eat the flesh of their sons and daughters, and they will eat one another's flesh during the stress of the siege imposed on them by the enemies who seek their lives.'

10 "Then break the jar while those who go with you are watching, 11 and say to them, 'This is what the LORD Almighty says: I will smash this nation and this city just as this potter's jar is smashed and cannot be repaired. They will bury the dead in Topheth until there is no more room. 12 This is what I will do to this place and to those who live here, declares the LORD. I will make this city like Topheth. 13 The houses in Jerusalem and those of the kings of Judah will be defiled like this place, Topheth—all the houses where they burned incense on the roofs to all the starry hosts and poured out drink offerings to other gods.' "

14 Jeremiah then returned from Topheth, where the LORD had sent him to prophesy, and stood in the court of the LORD's temple and said to all the people, 15 "This is what the LORD Almighty, the God of Israel, says: 'Listen! I am going to bring on this city and the villages around it every disaster I pronounced against them, because they were stiff-necked and would not listen to my words.' "

So let me get this straight…
If God says something is a sin we should make it illegal?

Murder = Yes should be illeagal!

Steve -

Sorry to hear the news about your mom! Our family will keep your family in our prayers.

But not everyone sees abortion as murder.. that's just plain and true.
I see eating meat as murder, not all Christians do.
It's my choice to not eat meat and if you want to eat it, that's your choice and I respect you.
If a women wants to terminate her pregnancy, that's her choice and I respect her. I might not agree with it, but it wasn't my choice. It was hers. Let her live with her "sin" as you would call it.

What about the applying the constitution consistently to our population? If slavery was still legal in this country would you support a person’s right to choose if they own a slave or not? How about their right to treat that Slave how they want, even if it meant severe beatings, public humiliation, and even death?

If women were still treated as the property of the husband, do you support his choice to beat, rape, and humiliate his wife?

If the child in the womb is truly a human life, shouldn’t that life have a chance to exercise its rights?

There is a fundamental difference between an animal’s life and a human’s life. I am not saying that we should be cruel and inhumane to animals. But it is clear that they have been given to us for provision. I applaud your choice to not eat animals, but it is a far stretch comparing that to ending a human life.

If we give people a free reign over anything that they choose, how many rights of others will they violate? I don’t think an anarchist form of government is the answer.