Orly Taitz isn't crazy - what's insane is that so few care

I'm sorry, Steve, but she's still crazy and you're just drinking her crazy Kool-Aid. She has absolutely no credibility. If she actually had anything concrete, she wouldn't resort to stunts like supporting an alleged Obama Kenyan birth certificate that later was proven to be a forgery.

In my personal opinion, she's doing all this to get attention and so far it's been fantastically successful for her. I mean, who would've cared what she had to say before she started this crazy train? Now she's invited to news programs and giving speeches like the one this weekend.

Orly is doing far more for her New Homeland than most born and bred "Americans" are. She's trying to save us from a Communist takeover that is riding a 8 month run and gaining speed. Stop attacking and get on board to find the truth, the whole truth, and settle for nothing but the truth. If you fear the truth you are surely hiding something that you want to keep hidden. If you say you're not. "you lie"!

If you read the documents in Dr Taitz's cases, you will see that she is remarkably intelligent and articulate, and working hard to get to the truth. I believe she is doing wonderful work against incredible, irrational bias. Obama is quite the con man, and has a cult-like following, but then so did Bernie Madoff. What they have is common is that they hid the truth. Obama has been effective at marginalizing his total concealment of what is almost certainly very damaging information. He has also been successful at manipulating the failing commercial media, who have lost customers by abandoning journalism, and who are now pandering in expectation of their share Obama's patronage and "bailout" money.

The issue with Obama's citizenship goes right to the point of divided loyalties, which the founders wanted to prevent in the commander of our military. Obama, by his birth and personal history, may well be an example of what they were concerned about. If he is not qualified under the Constitution, but he swore that he was to obtain the office, that is very serious.

I am confident that Dr Taitz is working very hard to get to the bottom of this situation, and she has my support (and what money I can send). I would encourage you to support her as well, and send donations as you see fit and can afford. Read her work in the court papers she has filed and you will see for yourself that she is genuine and a patriot.

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She has had countless meltdowns over every form of media, she doesn't back up her own outlandish claims about 39 SS#'s or 149 jobs, she's obviously suffering from a multitude of personality & psychological disorders, she's been laughed out of court & fined $10,000 for saying judges should be tried for treason…

… and she's presented at MINIMUM two birth certificates that were so OBVIOUSLY FORGED they might as well have been written in CRAYON.

Hell, the kindest thing that anyone can say about her is that she makes LaRouche'rs look SANE.

I'm sorry Pastor Steve but most of what Orly fed you were lies. President Obama has NOT spent "over a million bucks" to "keep his records sealed". His records, same as EVERYONE'S records, are "sealed" by laws: HIPAA and FERPA. His lawyers have publicly stated they are defending him pro bono in the birther cases. This has been PROVED true by the decision in Keyes v Bowen where costs were awarded to the defendants and Obama's cost were a mere $540. You and all TAXPAYERS should be concerned NOT with what President Obama is spending, but with how much these frivolous suits are costing US. And the "reasonable justification" for defending himself in these suits is the same as McCain's in similar suits: it would set a precedent by which NO ONE'S private records would be safe from unreasonable intrusion. Would you like your parishioners to be able to win a suit demanding YOUR private medical or other records? As for the "many mysterious things"; they are all manufactured LIES. Look at the "39 different social security numbers, has had 149 addresses, over 100 job positions". They don't belong to President Obama - they belong to people with similar names. There is no response from the Justice Dept because Orly's "evidence" is patently absurd. The birth certificate Obama provided is a certified copy of the facts of his birth issued by the state of Hawaii. It was scanned and photographed and posted on the web for the PUBLIC Before you further make a fool of yourself, you really should investigate Orly assertions. A good place to start is

http://politijab.com/phpBB3/. Darn thing posted without my permission…

Thomas - she backed up her claims giving the SS# info, etc to the justice dept. and posted it all on her website.

Mary - it's not that easy. No one wants his medical records. They seek access to the original birth certificate so it can be authenticated because what he provided is disputable and therefore unconvincing and insufficient. And yes there are five law firms and a million dollars sealing his college records where it likely shows he came enrolled scholarship as a foreign student. No one wants his medical records.

We are all adults here, and as adults we know there are consequences for are actions, so if you do not agree with his policies, you can a) do nothing, b) support him, c) not support him, d) protest and picket, its your choice, live the dream! As for Orly Taitz, to this point she has not been successful because she does not have any proof, documentation supporting her claims except her wild rants. I would not bet the farm on this one. She has a mail-order-degree get someone with real credentials (Harvard, Yale Law School) not a Russian immigrant with dual US/ Israel citizenship (where are her allegiances?). Have you even thought of who is paying for all these filings her travel, her wigs? Sorry she has no juice because she does not have any proof, documentation supporting her claims except her wild rants. I heard they are now playing the victim card as well. Please, feel sorry for us the “Birth Certificate” that we built our entire case around and that we have been dancing around turn out to be a big “Fake”. Her material might work on “Fake News” but not in a Court of the United States.

The Birth Certificate is year old news. With the FBI, CIA, and hidden organizations within our secrete government, he could fake the Dead Sea Scrolls by now. We have all the information we need, but people refuse to see the huge Elephant hiding in their living room right next to their Computer, Radio, and today even their TV. - His Father was NEVER an American Citizen. - His Father WAS a Kenyan Brit that (being a British Subject) came under the British Nationality Act of 1948 which caused his new born son to be born a British Subject at the moment of birth no matter where that birth took place. Natural Born = Born of Blood and Soil. Blood of Parents (with a "s" meaning both) that are American Citizens at one's birth and that birth on American Soil. He has admitted to both of these as being his history. With a non-American father and being born a British Subject under allegiance to the Queen of England from birth he can never be considered a Natural Born American Citizen. See John Jay's letter to George Washington about adding the Natural Born requirement to our Constitution. Our founding fathers knew they were not natural Born Americans because they had British parents and were themselves born British Subjects so they had to add "unless you are a Citizen of the US at the time of the adoption of this Constitution" to Article 2. Section 1. paragraph 5. for anyone to be eligible to hold the office of POTUS. The first 10 Presidents served under this language until such time we actually had Americans born to two American Citizen parents and born on American Soil. It s all so simple why do some close their eyes to the truth?

Paul,

The issue is not Obama's policies — the question is his LEGITMACY as President under the Constitution.

Regardless of your opinions, the Courts will have the final word.

Regarding Taitz' qualifications, she is qualified to practice before the US Supreme Court. Read her court filings, and you will find she is competent and logical. Ranting about her and repeating rumors is not productive.

@Steve If you think posting a pile of crap on her website makes it true, you have some serious mental problems. Her "investigator" pulled up a bunch of garbage and fed it to her. Orly has specifically demanded his birthing record - the "big thick file" at the hospital (which likely no longer exists). What President Obama provided is NOT disputable. It is the official certification of the facts of birth issued by the state of Hawaii. ONE MORE TIME, Steve (there is PROOF here): His lawyers have publicly stated they are defending him pro bono in the birther cases. This has been PROVED true by the decision in Keyes v Bowen where costs were awarded to the defendants and Obama's cost were a mere $540. You and all TAXPAYERS should be concerned NOT with what President Obama is spending, but with how much these frivolous suits are costing US. Why in the world would he enroll as a foreign student when the chances of aid and admission were much less? HOW could he enroll as a foreign student when all of his transcripts would have been domestic? Are you completely unable to think critically? @old1 There is nothing in the Constitution or in any court decisions which says NBC requires 2 US citizen parents. Quite the contrary, there have been many court decisions declaring otherwise. Try U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark & Mandoli v. Acheson for starters: http://www.richw.org/dualcit/cases.html "Unlike in Alice in Wonderland, simply saying something is so does not make it so." Judge Land to Orly Taitz in Rhodes v. MacDonald.

@Micheal

Taitz is not qualified to practice ANYWHERE. There is no "qualifying" to practice before the USSC- it is merely being admitted to the bar in any state and getting a DC sponsor.

Her court filings are disastrous, improperly filed, improperly labeled and usually unsigned. They are bloated piles of poop and far, far, far from "competent and logical".

She is woefully incompetent and has had at least 4 complaints filed with the CA bar. She has committed many breaches of ethics and is going to be disbarred soon.

Mary - unlike in Alice in Wonderland, simply saying all these things against her doesn't make them true.

To me this is not about her at all. There are legitimate concerns about Obama's eligibility and those who want more information are vilified.

I listened to Taitz for nearly 3 hours and as I indicated, it was coherent, interesting and well-informed. You are the one using phrases like "bloated piles of poop."

Steve,

"Thomas - she backed up her claims giving the SS# info, etc to the justice dept. and posted it all on her website"

I've been to her website, and in just the post she made about coming to South Dakota, she:

A) gave the wrong e.mail address (message returned as undeliverable),

B) got the hotel wrong (website said she'd speak at the Sheraton, she actually spoke at the Holiday Inn),

C) and she spelled Sioux Falls "Sue Falls" (keep in mind, one of her "careers" is a real estate agent)

So pardon me if I tell you that I'm not going to go on a wild goose chase looking for this, and ask you instead to provide a link.

Mary

You say we should be concerned "how much these frivolous suits are costing US"? Don't you remember that Obama promised a "transparent" administration? How do you explain why he takes every measure to prevent the public exposure of what should be innocuous and trivial, his birth certificate?

Have your own opinion, but to me the extent to which he has let this fester is only logical if he is hiding something very, very bad. Otherwise, for the good of the whole nation, and to truly be the "bringing us together" president he promised to be, he would release it in an instant.

No, it is now clear what is more important to Obama. He would rather have us at each others throats, and keep the document locked in a vault for whatever his selfish reasons are.

And, like many other issues like the March on Washington, and the Acorn scandal, his pattern is to pretend that he doesn't even know there is an issue. He is a con man and a President that no rational person could trust.

Steve, the JUDGES have said her pleadings are piles of poop (just not in those exact terms). Then she calls them traitors and calls for their impeachment. The FACT is that at least 4 complaints have been filed against her with the CA bar. Two of them have been posted online. The FACT is that 4 people have stated IN WRITING that she represented them without their knowledge or permission - a egregious breach of ethics. The FACT is that she is up for $10K in sanctions. The FACT is that she could not even serve a subpoena properly. The FACT is that she doesn't even sign most of her filings. The FACT is that her presentations about President Obama's eligibility are mostly LIES. Micheal, President Obama has released his birth certificate to the public. What could he be hiding? His birth weight? The information contained in the BC he provided is all that is necessary to prove NBC. Hawaii DOES NOT ISSUE ANY OTHER FORM. Neither do many other states, including: North Carolina, Washington, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Missouri, Arizona for births after 1989. Giving in to a small group of nutballs would set a bad precedent which is why John McCain fought the same type of suits. The appropriate thing to do with loud crazies is to ignore them. History will show that it is not President Obama who is the con man, it is Orly Taitz who is the biggest con since Phil Berg.

I just deleted three comments from Mary.

FACT: Obama's birth certificate is disputable and therefore insufficient.

Smears against Orly Taitz don't change that fact.

Thank you Steve, I just wish those like Mary would spend an honest hour looking at the many Questions that engulf this man and go unchallenged for over a year now. This man, sleeping in our White House today, could not get a security clearance necessary to be on the House Keeping Staff. His associates throughout his life would throw up a Red Flag and prevent that from taking place. So many questions - No Answers! I truly feel that those not asking questions are in on the attempted Communist takeover of our Great Country. I know that it is hard to wrap your head around a group trying to take over America, but all the facts point in that direction. Keep up the fight my friend. United we stand divided we surely fall.

old1, I have spent many, many hours looking for the truth. The truth is that President Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961. This is corroborated by 2 newspaper announcements, (Republican) officials at the Hawaii DOH and a US Senator who is an old family friend from before President Obama was even born. To believe a vast conspiracy was undertaken starting almost a half century ago is insanity. The best resource, with REAL LAWYERS and intelligent discussion (and admitting when proven wrong) is http://politijab.com/phpBB3 It is definitely NOT a birther echo chamber.

Steve, I've been listening to Orly for a year. She lies. And, she's an incompentant lawyer as well. (But not for long.) I suggest you do more research. Perhaps……………

(SH: I deleted all the Obama is my Jesus links)

If you are buying Orly's tales, you are a gullible man.

Rachel/Mary - We are all so VERY impressed that you both are legal experts having spent a year (many many hours) sorting through all this on the blogs and websites. Your links made me laugh and for every one like it there is one that says the opposite. I deleted all the links. Start your own Obama is My Jesus blog and sing his praises there.

I'm sick of your insults. Gullible man, birther?, small group of nutballs, etc. etc. You have no idea who I am. A prominent lawyer invited me to the Orly thing. There are very reputable people who think you all are members of Obama's Drone Choir. This guys story has significant holes in it and it's not crazy to hold that view.

Sure I know who you are. I've even seen your kids garden. I also know you are a stupid man.

racheldodd0972@yahoo.com | IP: 96.235.36.123

Wow- another twitter stalker.

Wow- Another preacher who is a vindictive jerk. Really, Steve, WWJD?

For anybody who plans on commenting here, know that Steve may post your email address and I.P.

Steve cannot be trusted. Do not give any identifying information.

Ha. Vindictive. You stalk my kids gardening? As far as I'm concerned you are a threat to my family. You don't know me but since you think you do, its fair that you introduce yourself. I can handle your rude namecalling. The line about my kids gardening is stalker spooky and you deserve to be identified. Jesus would shine light on darkness. That's what I'm doing.

Rachel, if I was Steve I would've done the same thing he did becaue of your creepy comment about his kids. That was taking this debate way too far. I may not agree with Steve's views, but I agree with him on posting your info.

I was reading USA Today's weekly relgion op-ed today, and it was talking about how we tend to demonize those we disagree with. I know I'm guilty of demonizing conservatives like Steve and Bob Ellis. It's very easy to type out a demonizing internet post when you're mad. Maybe all of us should take a couple deep breaths before posting about something that we're angry about. Something to think about, anyway.

Just responding to his comment "You have no idea who I am."

Also, calling him "gullible" is hardly the worst insult I could have made. But, to that point it was.

Finally, letting him know that I do, in fact, know his thoughts as he chooses to let them be known via his blogs and twitter is not a crime.

Stalking? I was just letting him know I do read his stuff.

If he doesn't want it read, he shouldn't publish it.

For that, he posts email and other identifying information. Truth is, they're both fake anyway.

Mary - Can you focus on this one simple issue — Hawaii admits it has Obama's long-form birth certificate in their records. Obama will not release it. Some people, such as me, believe it is important to review it, and are seeking court authority to do so.

If you personally don't want to see it, fine, that is your choice. But it should not matter to you if I, and others, want to review it. That is not your business.

Opinions about Dr Taitz, "birthers", the COLB the Obama campaign provided, "insufficient evidence", etc, etc, are totally irrelevant. Others and myself simply want to see the long-form birth certificate. The quest for information is exactly what the declining commercial news media has abandoned; it is simply investigation. The facts are what matter in the end.

Man, posting email addresses?

Rachel, Why are you here? What points do you want to make other than you want to protect a Communist usurper that is destroying the America we have known for 223 years. The truth can only hurt the guilty. It sets the innocent Free.
Try looking for the truth and keep the Obot spin to yourself!
Sorry Steve, but that's just how I feel.

Mary Adams, do you believe Barack Hussein Obama Jr. was born a British Citizen? He even said he was. What do you think?

Steve,

Still waiting for you to give a link where Dr Orly Taitz DDS Esq JD provides evidence that Obama has used countless SS#'s or had multiple alias'….

Yes, "Bruno" with the Chicago IP, publishing emails and IP is one of the only avenues a person has when malicious people abuse their blogs and websites. It does reduce the problem. Bruno, did you purposely pick a thug-like pseudonym to intimidate me?

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I guess I have to again purge out all twitter/facebook "friends" who I can't ID as friendly. Turns out Rachel, and that is her real info, born 9/72, is referring to a picture I took of my son out in one of our fields last month holding a leaf from a wild marijuana plant we came across. I made a joke on twitter about us being out in his "garden". People who know us laughed, including one of the officers here in the police dept. where I happen to be Chaplain. I guess I need to listen to my wife and use more wisdom.

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Do the homework yourself Paine. I mentioned Taitz said the info is on her website and that it was turned into the Justice Dept. If it's not there anymore, contact her yourself.

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I'm done on this topic for now and will wait to see it unfold. I find it satisfying that a California judge has set a trial date which indicates he is satisfied with what he has seen to date such that he believes the merits of this case need to stand trial.

Steve,

"Do the homework yourself Paine. I mentioned Taitz said the info is on her website and that it was turned into the Justice Dept. If it's not there anymore, contact her yourself."

The woman told her readers to go to the wrong hotel, gave out the wrong e.mail address, said 16 State Senators & Representatives had RSVP'd, and couldn't even spell "Sioux Falls".

Since she got FOUR things FACTUALLY WRONG in TWO SENTENCES, I'm sorry, but I don't feel like wading through her incoherant diatribes looking for something that is probably wrong anyways.

Nevermind the fact that I've read serial killers' manifestos that were more coherent.

But by all means Steve, keep buying this woman's BS without an OUNCE of supporting evidence.

Steve, I just came upon your wonderful site. I also am glad to hear your were at the presentation. I tried with no avail to get the details so I could be there. Was there a quota or something as Mr Peterson never returned my e-mails. How can I get active in SD? Is there a commited group that meets?

Also, some commenters here seem to be forgetting the MOST important aspect of this great effort to right such a huge injustice to Americans…

It is about a legitimate "Commander in Chief" & National Security.

http://constitutionallyspeaking.wordpress.com/2009/09/28/to-be-an-american-has-nothing-to-do-with-race-it-has-to-do-with-being-a-person-cloaked-in-liberty-free-from-monarchy-free-of-repression-free-forever/

http://constitutionallyspeaking.wordpress.com/2009/09/27/breaking-down-sen-johnsons-letter-point-by-point/

http://constitutionallyspeaking.wordpress.com/2009/09/25/senator-johnson-says-newsweek-bill-ayers-annenberg-foundation-not-the-supreme-court-are-now-the-official-sources-for-constitutional-interpretation-of-our-laws/

Dr.(?) Orly Taitz Esq, Attorney at LOL

This woman is a nutjob as is anyone who takes what she says at face value.
The president is smart to keep all his nuttiest detractors off chasing wild geese while he pushes his agenda through. Even if he did provide what you're looking for, Orly and crew would just move the goalposts again and claim it isn't good enough.

Hahahahaha!

Typical birther/nutcase/Taitz activity: deleting comments the little boy doesn't like (docket entries proving Orly's incompetence) and publishing personal info on the internet.

You people are trash out of the same bin.

Micheal - Can you focus on this one simple issue? YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE "LONG FORM" BC HAWAII HAS LOOKS LIKE. Being as I have been a Neonatal RN for decades, I DO.

There is personal, illegal-to-reveal info (for statistical and research purposes) on the form that comes from the hospital.

Hawaii no longer prints what you think of as "the original long form" which is actually just a longer abstract of the info form the actual form than the BCs they issue now.

Hawaii would have to pay a programmer to write a program to extract the data you birthers want, then print it up on some form that you nutballs would just say is a forgery, SO WHY BOTHER?

And how about this: "Hawaii admits it has Obama's long-form birth certificate in their records." THEREFORE HE COULD ONLY HAVE BEEN BORN THERE. DUH!

And no, I don't need to see any more. A certified document from a US state that certifies born in the USA and over 35 years old is all I need. Two newspaper announcements and a US Senator who has known him since before he was born are icing on the cake. I don't believe his birth weight or his mother's penmanship have any bearing on eligibility.

It matters to me and all thinking Americans that a small number of crazy people want to invade the privacy of another American. It matters to me that it would set a precedent that would leave all Americans vulnerable to invasion of privacy.

It will never win in court and those of you who think Judge Carter is going to let Orly have "discovery" are going to get a rude surprise - as is the incredibly ignorant Orly. LOL!

old1 - sure President Obama was born a British citizen, then that was converted into Kenyan citizenship which expired at age 21 or whatever.

So what? I doubt he even knew he had dual citizenship until the hate-mongers dug it up. He certainly never mentioned it in his books or anywhere else until late in the campaign. In his books he talks about how important being an American is and was growing up in Indonesia.

FYI: Lots of Americans are running around unaware that they have dual citizenship transmitted via parents or even grandparents.

Steve you are going to tarnish your reputation if you don't realize the truth about Orly.

Little boy. Out of the same trash bin.

Mary- you are a haughty, rude, arrogant ("decades"), self-appointed, platformless, anonymous, busybody and you've posted for the last time here.

I can delete any comments I want here — it's my blog. Start your own blog instead of turding up mine. I deleted your comments because I don't need to be called names by a nobody - I discern a foul spirit with you.

Thanks for your insincere concern for my reputation, but I speak truth regardless of people's opinions of me or whether or not it'll hurt my reputation. In fact, the one I am taking my cues from says, "woe to you when men speak well of you."

Please Steve, for the love of Pete and Sam for that matter, do not use (I shudder to type it) "turding up" or turding anything for that matter. That terminology is for another site that deserves no recognition. Thank you.

Re: "the fact that Obama has spent over a million bucks and presently has five law firms working to keep his records sealed. "

Obama has posted the official birth certificate of Hawaii, and the facts on it, that he was born in Hawaii in 1961, were confirmed twice by the officials in Hawaii.

There have been many cases against Obama, most to stop the election others to stop the Inauguration, but there has not been even one lawsuit against Obama that simply asked him to provide records. IF there were a lawsuit that simply asked Obama to provide his birth certificate to a court, Obama would do it. He would show the Certification of Live Birth, which is the official birth certificate of Hawaii.

As the Wall Street Journal commented: "Obama has already provided a legal birth certificate demonstrating that he was born in Hawaii. No one has produced any serious evidence to the contrary. Absent such evidence, it is unreasonable to deny that Obama has met the burden of proof. We know that he was born in Honolulu as surely as we know that Bill Clinton was born in Hope, Ark., or George W. Bush in New Haven, Conn.

The release of the obsolete birth certificate would not “resolve the issue” to those for whom it is not already resolved. They claim without basis that today’s birth certificate is a fake; there is nothing to stop them from claiming without basis that yesterday’s is as well."

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