Today Tiller the Killer, now a martyr for Molech, met God

I'm really sorry to hear about this. Despite our differences on whether abortion is a benign medical practice or not, I'm sure you are being sincere when you say that violence against any living person is wrong, and certainly a Christian must believe this, which is hard to weigh against the support amongst the Christian community for the death penalty, war atrocities against innocents, killing of prisoners… any number of state actions that by God's word are just as vile as you seem to think abortion is. Why the double standard?

It interests me that someone you talked to recently was speaking of not being good at meting out "delayed justice," as if justice belonged to anyone in this country but the legal system. See, the law of this land is not dictated to you, Dr. Tiller or myself by anyone's deity. Seems some folks aren't really too happy about that.

Anyhow, we're in complete agreement about one thing; this does nothing but bring shame and illegitimacy to your cause, and sadness to those whose family member had their life cut short. People sharing your opinions are down to what, 20% of the population at this point? I'm sure as this struggle gets more futile for your side these occurrences will become more frequent. It's really sad, and ultimately useless. I hope that, in the future, some people with actual Christian values such as yourself will step back and realize that not participating in something that you find immoral, and telling people that you think it is immoral, is the best way of making a difference.

Thanks for your time.

My first child died in his clinic. He provided medication to my parents to put me out so he could rip my baby out of me for the satisfaction of my parents. Even in my drug-induced state, I remember that I was sobbing and he said "take her away." As if he were disgusted with my crying. Then I was left in a room to recover and I could hear a female screaming and crying in pain from another room while she was delivering her baby.
The toll this decision my parents made, and Dr. Tiller made possible, has been a scar on my life till this day.
Today I feel like the murderer of my first child has been executed.
God Bless all the souls, both mother and child, who have had their lives destroyed by the abortion procedure.

I fantasized about Tiller's conversion. I thought about all the dark things he'd bring into the light, about how much we'd be vindicated, about how much better things would be for women who got bad prenatal diagnoses. I dreamed of it the way a Disney princess dreams of her prince.

Now those hopes are dashed.

My troll, Tlaloc, after months of absence, was in my blog to gloat before the body was cold.

He couched it as "This is just what you wanted!" but he's not stupid enough to really believe that. He knows better. Most of them do — the hardcore ones.

But sadly, the bulk of ordinary citizens don't know that. And the Tlalocs of the world are already making sure they never learn that.

This is a dark day for life, and the brightest one Satan has seen in decades.

I'm so demoralized by this I can't even put it into words.

Hugs, MissMyBaby. I've said it already — there are plenty of people who had a lot of reason to hate Tiller, especially among his patients and the people who love them.

I'm so sorry for what you endured. And I'm grieved that your voice will be lost. Those who he hurt will not matter to the Powers that Be.

[…] our local anti-abortion zealot Paster Steve over at Voices Carry of course had to chime in It really doesn't matter what we say about Tiller. It matters what […]

Unbelievable. A local "lawyer"/liberal blogger just put up this post…

Rightwing Zealots: Pastor Hickey Rejoices In Dr. Tiller's Assassination

Could I have been more clear Tiller's assassination made me sick and sad?

I just left him a voice mail at work asking him to call me ASAP - I don't mind him picking apart my ideas and opinions but I do very much mind this kind of complete distortion and false representation. He needs to retract it immediately.

That's it. Now it's time for the abortion war to become a real war, with casualties on BOTH sides. I call on all readers of good conscience to kill right-to-lifers. From now on, killing right-to-lifers will be justifiable homicide, not murder.

FROM SH: This comment is from 207.237.1.119  Mainly I block this guy here, he turds up lots of pro-life blogs under other names SoMG and Singing Zombie mainly.

MMB,

I was under the impression that that would be totally illegal, since it's your body and you have to give consent to have a fetus aborted, and that this guy hasn't been found guilty of any wrongdoing. Seems strange.

I'm sure people would be happy to check your story out if you could reference any facts so that we know you're not just maligning a dead man when he doesn't have a chance to respond.

Assassination tends to hurt the cause of the murder and help the cause of the person who was assassinated.

Most people are disgusted by the murder of an individual in his church, while his wife sat in the choir. This makes the pro-life movement look like the cause of immoral barbarians.

True pro life people do not condone violence and I am sure we will find that the man who killed Tiller was driven by insane rage, whether from something personal or from anger at abortion that was completely misdirected.

However, responsibility for this murder today lies at the feet of the court of Kansas for not convicting Tiller of the crimes that he committed. The jury reached their verdict of not guilty in one hour.

When justice is so denied, one can expect rage to arise in the citizens. If Tiller had been justly dealt with, he would be in jail now and his clinic closed. So the real responsibility for his death is at the feet of the state of Kansas for stating that Tiller was above the law.

I'm just so confused about Tiller being in church. I seriously do not understand how Tiller, a killer, could even step foot into a church let alone serve in a church along with his wife. I'm sure his wife sang about God, Jesus, life, love, and many facts about God's love for everyone! With all the killing he did and with his wife's support I do not understand how this is possible.

I don't think killing him was the right thing to do. He needed to be stopped, I totally agree, but there could have been another way. Something that could make him no longer preform the procedures.

There's the challenge, Stephanie. You have to understand that Dr. Tiller could be just as devoted to God and family as you, could pray and read Scripture, and yet come in good conscience to different conclusions about abortion. He wasn't some easily demonizable atheist or Satanist. He was a Christian, a husband, a decent person, just like you. Unfortunately, someone with a gun decided to ignore those facts and view Dr. Tiller as nothing more than a target for his selfish rage.

Does the phrase, "Judge not lest ye be judged" mean anything to you so-called Christians at all? Those who think they know the mind of God, and express that God will send this man to eternal damnation are arrogant, to say the least. No man can know the mind of God. You want to stop abortions? You can't: humans are frail creatures, and try as you might, you won't stop them from making mistakes. The only thing one can hope for is for an abortion to be done with the woman's health and safety in mind. After all, the abortion is between her and her God.

I just wondered if Tiller the Baby Killer screamed in horror as his brains were being blown all over the wall just like the babies do as he suctions them out of the womb? My guess is I think not, unfortunately. Good Day. Kman

What should have happened? Cut his arms off and poke out his eyes?

Stephanie said: "I'm just so confused about Tiller being in church. I seriously do not understand how Tiller, a killer, could even step foot into a church let alone serve in a church along with his wife."

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It's because many people don't consider a fetus a human being or even "alive" yet.

If a person thinks it's not a human, then there's no problems with going to church.

You certainly don't have to agree with that viewpoint, but do you now understand how an abortion doctor could go to church?

You all have to step back and lower the rhetoric. Accept that not everyone agrees with you about what "pro life" means. I'm sure most people who support a woman's right to make her own decisions about her body consider themselves "pro life." And many go to church and consider themselves religious and good people.

Millions of good Christians do not believe abortion is murder. You can't force your world view on others. I know you want to protect what you consider is a baby, but you have to accept that this baby is inside another person and your beliefs end way beyond that line.

DoctorDefense @ 6:21 pm

I just filed a report with the FBI on you.

I disagree with berger about Dr. Tiller being just like me or just like any christian or believer for that matter. You stated Dr. Tiller was a decent person but I do not find killing the innocent to classify you as a decent person. The commandment states though shall not kill. It does not state though shall not kill babies after they are born or any time after that. It states though shall not kill. End of story in God's eyes. If He wanted the innocent killed at will He would have stated that. It is hard to pray for Dr. Tiller's family and their comfort at this time because they all knew what he was doing. I do pray for Christ to be with them at this time but I must admit that I also pray that they realize the sin in what they are promoting and what they have supported all this time.

I'm still baffled that Tiller and his family believed! I also really question what the church preaches that Tiller was a part of. Justice will come upon all of us some day. When that day comes our sins will be revealed whether we are believers actively attending a church or not. Nothing can hide our wrongs.

Whenever a Christian tries to make some sort of moral stand, why do non-Christians always accuse them of "imposing their religious beliefs on others?" What the non-Christians are doing by that is imposing THEIR beliefs on others; what gives them the right? Nothing does, that's what.

Christians are not imposing some disputable, personal opinion on others; they are proclaiming what God has clearly said in his word.

Be glad someone didn't impose their belief that "abortion is OK" on you before you were born.

BTW, if the conservative press handled news like the liberal press does, this story wouldn't be touched in any conservative media at all. The pro-Christian side deals with the news that potentially makes it look bad; the anti-Christian side merely omits it.

I can't believe that some of you condone this murder in a "place of worship" no less because of your own convoluted religious beliefs. We can't have a real revolution in this country, until we rid ourselves as a society from the crazy lunatics like you. I know every one of you pro-lifers, whether you had the balls to vocalize it or not, think this was a justifiable homicide. What's next coming to California and start shooting doctors that prescribe marijuana? I wish we could send you all to the Middle East with the other religious freaks that want to kill for their God. Then you Christians can join the Jews and Muslims and fight it out until you are all dead. It's shocking that you simple single-issue citizens think that a man that was killed in a church was justified. You can't even see how wrong that is. The women that went to Dr. Tiller were not forced against their will and strapped to a table and their baby killed. They CHOOSE to go to the doctor and have the legal procedure. Why not go kill the person that made the decision instead of the doctor performing the procedure? I'll tell you why, because then you morons would have to face the real issue - the women having these procedures. The doctors are not the problem, they are doing their job within the letter of the law. Maybe raise your little girls to quit spreading their legs at such an early age, and this wouldn't be such a social problem. We are not a Christian Nation, we a re a Nation of Laws. Practice your faith in private just like Jesus said. This murderer doesn't even deserve legal protections as an American, he is a terrorist and should be treated as such. Off to GITMO for this loser!!!

Another Abortion Killer took my only daughter by a forced abortion but I will spare you the horrible details. Tiller the Killer should've been taken out decades ago. As far as I am concerned, Scott' gave him much more mercy in the shooting than Tiller deserved; accurate judgement on the other side will probably finish it. "Anyone who will stab babies in the back of the head for a living is not a "wonderful" man, Christian, doctor or father no matter what his friends, damily or Planned Parenthood say."

It puzzles me what drives you people. Abortion is like having a wart removed. Or some other minor medical procedure. An inconvenience, but that's it. It certainly was like that for me. This man helped 1000s of women have a life free from the unwanted burden of a child. With time, I'm sure your god will help you to understand this as they are all powerful and knowing.

Scott - 3 questions

1. Where in anything I've written is there a hint of happiness over Tiller's murder? For you to state all pro-lifers are happy let's us all know you are hysterically delusional, fully lacking in judgment and a perception of reality. I haven't seen anyone on this blog condoning this killing in a church. Do you read before you spew?

2. When did America cease to become a Christian nation? It's indisputable that it was founded as one. I do agree we are not one anymore.

3. Where did Jesus ever say we are to practice our faith only in private? I can tell you haven't read the Bible. In fact, he repeatedly said the opposite - calling us ot be salt in a decaying soceity and light in a dark world. He likened his kingdom to leaven in a loaf and taught it's to permeate the entire loaf (society). That's hard to do if it's kept private.

Victim of 1975 - I agree that Tiller should have been taken out long ago BUT ONLY if you mean by the law. I suspect you don't mean that and if that is correct I'd ask you to take all that wounding and hurt and anger and lay it at the foot of the Cross - otherwise it'll keep killing you. Maybe one of the other post abortive gals who frequent this blog can say more. I do agree with you that his death, as you say, considering how he mercilessly dismembered others, was more merciful.

But mostly your post screams PAIN. And here's what's vitally important about that right now. People who lose children to disease, accidents, abduction, crime, and abortion suffer sometimes insurmountable loss and do very destructive things to themselves and unfortunately to others. We see bitterly grieving dads jump the courtroom barricade and take after the one who raped and killed his young daughter.

What I'm hearing is that Tiller's killer is a post-abortive male. Tiller and the entire abortion industry live in a perpetual state of denial about what abortion does to people. We'll see shortly if this guy was indeed post abortive. I know another abortion doctor who woke up one day to the pain they caused in other peoples lives.

Even bullied teenagers snap and shoot up schools. It's horrible anyway you slice it but I think what we will see here at the end of the day that it wasn't so much an extreme pro-life flow that was fueling this guys insanity. I suspect his rage is fueled by pain caused by abortion.

Steve, I just read that you filed a report about me with the FBI.

I hope you made your report SHORT. FBI workers' time is valuable. You should try to waste as little of it as you can.

Please add the following to your report: If someone kills right-to-life Professor Robert George of Princeton, I will celebrate non-stop for at least forty-eight hours.

One George deserves another.

No, he was not a decent man…. Decent men do not suck the brains out of children.

Learn what "judge not lest ye be judged" means before you try to shove it in a Christian's face. It means do not judge hypocritically. We have professional judges for goodness' sake (they sit in courts and wear black robes). If the world lived by your standards, then no one would be judged.

Tiller murdered thousands of babies with the consent of the mothers and fathers. He is guilty. I am no hypocrite, I've never aborted, paid for abortion, murdered anyone, etc. So, there, I can judge.